Nice wallet xD

posted by H0lyhandgrenade on 08 Jun 2012 05:51 pm

I dated the Devil. Let's just say she's not that good in the sack ;)

posted by qazox on 08 Jun 2012 10:34 pm

@reverendjack: nice page.. NEED MOAR

posted by Corporate Crack] (Guest) on 08 Jun 2012 10:50 pm

@H0lyhandgrenade: fact - i was torn between that and a Mokepon wallet.
in the end, it's not my wallet, so it wasn't my choice. Ada does, however, play the crap out of Mokepon Red >>
http://adalee.smackjeeves.com/comics/1321195/3-22/

@qazox: couldn't have been the devil, then. everyone knows the devil is pro. maybe it was one of the lesser demons? it's not unheard of for them to claim to be the devil.

@Corporate Crack]: moar is on its way!

posted by reverendjack on 08 Jun 2012 11:10 pm

Ah, all caught up. You, good sir, have another reader :)

posted by Lady Of Crimson on 09 Jun 2012 07:55 pm

This has always kind of bugged me about the comic, but how come in some frames Ada Lee's flower has rounded petals, and in others it has pointed petals?

Does her libido really change that much over the course of a minute? That must be a roller coaster of hormones.

posted by Elastikid on 10 Jun 2012 05:14 am

@Lady Of Crimson: Thank you for reading :D

@Elastikid: I don't think the petals symbolize her sexuality as much as they do her... 'guard', or disposition.

posted by reverendjack on 10 Jun 2012 09:46 am

Something tells me you're still a virgin

Now read The Purge

http://thepurge.smackjeeves.com/

posted by ThePurgePR on 10 Jun 2012 11:44 pm

@ThePurgePR: i'm going to leave that up, because it's true *crying*.

posted by reverendjack on 10 Jun 2012 11:45 pm

@reverendjack: 32 years old and you haven't been inside anything

how do you live you loser

http://www.smackjeeves.com/comicprofile.php?id=121359 read the purge

posted by ThePurgePR on 10 Jun 2012 11:50 pm

@ThePurgePR: i honestly have no idea. i cry a lot :/

i have to drink a lot of water every day to replace the amount i lose through my tear ducts.

i also go through pillow cases like people go through paper towels.

some days - the days when i lose the most, because i'm a loser - i think of you and it cheers me up. because i know that no matter how much i suck at life, there's at least one person out there who sucks *just a little bit* more.

posted by reverendjack on 11 Jun 2012 12:05 am

ReverendJack, I'm one of your quiet fans, I absolutely love Ada lee, and I love the way you just handled that guy.

posted by Leahpluradon on 11 Jun 2012 12:30 am

@Leahpluradon: <3

posted by reverendjack on 11 Jun 2012 12:39 am

She will never open her eyes. ever.
no such thing as surprise or eyes accentuating expression. this still bugs me to death.

posted by xkrazydog on 11 Jun 2012 10:29 am

@xkrazydog: I think I talked a little about this before the last time you mentioned it, but I'll give a better explanation >>

The exoteric of it is that I created this character at a time when I wasn't very comfortable drawing eyes. Two of my favorite comics at that time were Akiko and Tank Girl - the former having black jelly-bean eyes, the latter usually squinting. I went with squinting, as Ada was always very angry in everything I drew her in. Also, I was never a huge fan of the giant manga/anime eyes - and Ada was initially a parody of that. When it came time to finally draw this webcomic, yeeeears later, I did struggle with whether or not to give Ada more realistic eyes. For reasons below, I decided not to.

The esoteric is that emotion is one of the central themes of this story. That's not giving anything away, Ada has experienced almost all emotions up to this point. One of the other themes of ALCO! being eyes - and how Ada feels like she's being watched, or when someone with distorted eyes communicates to her as if possessed by a demon.
Anyway, I didn't give Ada 'actual' eyeballs (they're there - and she can see okay), because I liked the idea of NOT using eyes to convey emotion.
Her eyebrows accentuate her expressions just fine. Sometimes, as previously mentioned, the flower adds as accentuation.
When not in demon-form, Pip's mouth is the only thing he has to convey expression. The rest of the 'cast' uses their eyes.

I know you're of Asian descent, and I can totally see how you might cringe at the idea of a Chinese character who squints constantly - but I assure you it has nothing to do with race and it never did. (I hate defending this, but you also mentioned something along these lines the last time you commented.)
Ada's race/sex/sexuality have literally nothing to do with this comic. You could switch these elements out with most of the characters and the story would still be the same.

But yeah, always wanted to have a character who primarily uses their eyebrows to convey emotion (like Brock from Pokemon, only I don't know that much about Brock *ionlyplayedBlueneverwatchedtheshow-runs*).

Hope all that makes any sense. :)

posted by reverendjack on 11 Jun 2012 01:49 pm

"Also, I was never a huge fan of the giant manga/anime eyes - and Ada was initially a parody of that. "

Anime eyes was never the issue and thats a bit much assuming that's what i was getting at but still. (the way you worded it makes it seem like your putting words in my mouth me but i'll let that slide) There are moments in your story when there's an extreme moment of emotion, surprise, sheer happiness and these moments atleast SHOULD have her go beyond her =_____= squinty eyed expression. This allows it to go beyond a stereotype and is not above 1. your limitation. Since as you said your capable of drawing eyes now. and 2. she's no longer a stereotype. And I'm serious. It. will. really. help. 3. Your "the flower is a symbol!" still should have an exception in these moments.

Squinty eyed characters are fine but your character is squinty constantly. When squinty people ARE surprised guess what we asians Do have eyeballs! and i know you know that! Now i wish you'd show that a bit more often. You say its not a race thing, it may or may not be. But from this standpoint it does. We see her as the main lead, presumably well written but the eyes are distracting when i cant even take her seriously beyond her eyes/lack of expression plastered onher every time, Yes its her trademark but does she HAVE to have it all the time constantly? No. I dont want to assume your doing it outta sheer laziness.

But at the moment, your making a stereotype my friend and its really putting me off from reading a story that i would like because of rather shallow limitations.

posted by xkrazydog on 11 Jun 2012 04:02 pm

@xkrazydog: :/

fair enough.
also, wasn't putting words in your mouth, I was just explaining all of the reasons as to 'why I do it'.

If it bothers you this much, I won't tell you to stop reading - but I'll assume you will, and I thank you for reading at least up to this point (and for your input).
It's not that I'm incredibly lazy or won't take criticism into consideration - it's just a stylistic choice I've made and am sticking with.
I apologize if it offends you, but no offense was ever intended.

posted by reverendjack on 11 Jun 2012 04:33 pm

Also to reiterate, i'm not telling you to wrench her eyes open from now on, that's an unrealistic expectation. But once in a while wont ruin your precious character and will elevate her from a stereotype to a character that's humanistic and breathes life and variety. she isn't of the same mold and shouldn't be limited to such.

because from what i see on the get go is either a bad asian stereotype or someone who had her eyelids stitched shut.
Which your trying to convince me she definitely isn't.

posted by xkrazydog on 11 Jun 2012 04:34 pm

Now it almost sounds like you're flame-baiting, so yeah... this is over.

I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything - you'll take what you want from it, and that's what it is.

posted by reverendjack on 11 Jun 2012 04:41 pm

Lol being blunt and giving constructive criticism is flaming now?
I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. (and i wasnt being sarcastic either)

We know who Ada is. Some eyes here and there in the future when expression calls for it, wow I'm sorry if that's too much to ask....

posted by xkrazydog on 11 Jun 2012 04:48 pm

@xkrazydog: it was when you said the 'precious character' thing, it was a little fiery.
don't get me wrong, i love blunt people more than any other kind - it just sounded more incensed than blunt.

can't do the eyes thing. won't do it, rather. i'm sorry.

posted by reverendjack on 11 Jun 2012 05:13 pm

@reverendjack: Umm because that's what I meant? She's the main lead isnt she? so she would be precious to you and thus i can empathize hesitance to change.

You wont change it. fine. But tickle me disappointed since now that it has been shed to light some innocent adjustments would save you from such criticism in the future. (and no offense but it does seem like you feel above my constructive criticism. Especially. with. something that comes off. as very racially offensive.)

Oh and you do know a common insult to asians is that we have no souls because our eyes are squinty? What with eyes being windows of the soul reference. Thanks for reinforcing it rather than subverting it.

posted by xkrazydog on 11 Jun 2012 05:25 pm

Haven't heard that one. But, noted. >> Also, Ada still has her soul at this point.

And don't worry about my feelings - it takes a lot to put a dent in them.

posted by reverendjack on 11 Jun 2012 05:40 pm

Well time to get caught up on Ad- O.O

EXCITEMENT!! Thanks for the sweet reference Reverendjack! This has made my week!

posted by Vitotamito on 12 Jun 2012 08:12 pm